Powering a Just Transition: Insights into Financing Indonesia’s Energy Shift

This interview was originally published on the Southeast Asia Information Platform for the Energy Transition (SIPET).

As Southeast Asian countries accelerate efforts to meet their corporate and national climate targets, Indonesia faces one of the region's most complex challenges: how to finance its transition from fossil fuels—particularly coal—while creating a cleaner, more inclusive energy economy. Transition finance focuses on moving investment from brown (carbon-intensive) infrastructure into green infrastructure, but they should also aim to achieve a transition-phased, equitable shift of the energy sector that creates jobs and development benefits.  

For this edition of SIPET Connect, Peter du Pont, Senior Advisor on the GIZ CASE project, speaks with a leader who is actively shaping the transition finance landscape in Indonesia. Lishia Erza, Chief Executive Officer of Candra Naya Lestari, brings a dual perspective as both a sustainable finance expert and an entrepreneur. She draws on her experience with impact investing, local incubation networks, and public-private platforms to empower communities and small businesses. Deni Gumilang, Sustainable Energy Finance Lead at GIZ, has spent more than a decade advancing climate and energy finance in Indonesia, advising ministries, co-developing policy tools, and supporting the design and development of relevant mechanisms like the derisking facilities for RE that align public and private finance. 

Together, Lishia and Deni offer grounded insights into what transition finance looks like in the Indonesian context—how it’s being applied, what gaps remain, and what it will take to ensure that the country’s energy shift is both just and achievable. 

SIPET Connect: How do you define transition finance in the Southeast Asian and Indonesian context? 

Lishia Erza: For me, transition finance is really about financing the in-between—those activities and stakeholders that might not be part of a company’s direct climate plan but are still deeply impacted by the shift to low-carbon systems. There’s a lot of conversation around emissions, but we often forget the social and economic implications. 

Think about the ecosystem surrounding a coal power plant—transport providers, local small and medium enterprises (SMEs), informal workers. If a power plant shuts down, these people are impacted, yet they often don’t factor into corporate decarbonization strategies. Transition finance should be about making sure those groups aren’t left behind. Another is perhaps the transition of industries to lower emission practices. This often requires significant change management that bears financial impact that are too large to underestimate. 

So, while I don’t directly apply transition finance tools in my current supply chain finance work, I do collaborate with banks and asset managers to design new products and asset classes — for example reskilling loans for women or mechanics who need to shift from traditional to electric vehicle industries, to green agriculture practices and so on. The idea is to help them meaningfully participate in the transition, not just survive it. 

Deni Gumilang: Upon entering this domain around 2017, the landscape of transition finance was not as developed in Indonesia than it is at present. At that time, Indonesia remained committed to the development of 35 GW of new power capacity—much of it coal-fired. Subsequently, pressure arising from international commitments under the Paris Climate Agreement, and necessitated a strategic pivot towards renewable energy. That shift, both technically and financially, is complicated. 

GIZ has focused its efforts on assisting the government in aligning its public finance mechanisms with more private finance. Initially, the work primarily focused on the public side—supporting the Ministry of Energy, Ministry of Finance, OJK, and other agencies. But now we are trying to integrate applicable structures that can attract private investment as well. This encompasses the design of financial instruments and helping policymakers comprehend how public and private finance can collaboratively support a pragmatic, yet aspiring, transition. 

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